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Ep 3. This episode includes a Wedding that coworkers got to involved with, Absolutely Knot things you should/should not be sharing with coworkers, Wedding Tradition or Trash, VIP Table: TV Wedding Episodes, and ABC Venue.

Whether you're planning a wedding, attending one, or just here for the fun, we bring the laughs, hot takes, and the absolutely knots.

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SPEAKER_00

All right. Welcome to episode three of Absolutely Not, another podcast. Uh I am your host Game Show Garrett.

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And I am Weddy Procast.

SPEAKER_00

And thank you for joining us today. It's been awesome to see everybody tuning in uh through that first episode through the weekend. Seeing people from all around.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Way more than I anticipated, which is amazing.

SPEAKER_00

It's been outstanding to see. To be exact, we've seen sixteen different countries and four hundred and ten different cities around the globe for it. But number one was our our hometown.

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Really?

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City of Pittsburgh.

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Pittsburgh. Second was Chicago. Chicago. Which surprises me. Yeah, go cubbies, I guess. Okay. Not White Sox for it.

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Uh so yeah, continue to listen, continue to tell your friends, review us, whether uh you watch on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Prime.

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Wherever you listen to your podcasts.

SPEAKER_00

We've been busy. Super busy. Pretty busy in the last week or so just with the holiday. And now we have upcoming little weddings. We have a wedding. We have a vacation coming up. We have a vacation coming up. Where are we going to vacation to? You've been talking about it. Disney World. Disney. Disney, Disney, Disney. Yeah, we cannot wait to uh show the kids that we've already taken the kids there once. Yeah, more than that. We've taken both kids there. Both kids once. Our other child, whenever I worked in Orlando, we took him multiple times to visit that. But I feel like she's at the perfect age. Our daughter's two and a half. And every single morning she wakes up. Can we go to Disney? We're going to Disney today, Dad. Like, well, we're going in a couple weeks. In a couple weeks. What the day that it actually comes and work we're going. She's going to lose her. She's going to lose her marbles. Yeah. But we have a wedding this weekend that we're attending.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, as a guest.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's your cousin.

SPEAKER_01

And I we get to be we get to video the ceremony. I feel special.

SPEAKER_00

What are we doing? You didn't tell me this. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_01

We have the camera to record the ceremony. We are the we're we're like the videographers.

SPEAKER_00

Outstanding. Yeah. Any videographers out there don't judge us based off our view because I've never done that before.

SPEAKER_01

Second row. We got VIP seating.

SPEAKER_00

VIP seats. Can't wait. I am looking forward to dancing to all the songs that we put on our list last week. Yes. I'm sure that once this comes out, that the results will be coming in. And you probably beat me on that one. I think I won. Just like seeing into the future. I'm excited. I'm a Steelers fan if you didn't see big thing coming into the city of Pittsburgh. The NFL draft. NFL draft. They can't stop talking about it for better or worse. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And this episode will come out like right before the draft.

SPEAKER_00

Right before it. Hopefully that the Steelers do well. Personally, I hope they do not draft a quarterback round one. We'll see. Because it's not Mendoza. I'm sure you know exactly about it. I don't know who that is. I don't know. That's man. I don't know. I'm sorry about this, man. No, but the city is ramping up for it. The stage outside of Across looks outstanding.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And it's two and a half weeks away until the draft actually begins. And people are concerned locally. I'm concerned. Yeah. Where are we parking?

SPEAKER_01

Where are we parking? How are we getting in and out of the city without you know sitting in hour plus traffic? No, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

I probably am going to be watching it from the confines of my own house. But maybe stop on that Saturday. Probably not there on that Thursday, Friday. Just unfortunate. I'm going to be honest. I'm not going any of the days back. I didn't even put you on the free ticket list. I put up me and my son to go and see it. So we'll see how it goes. I'm excited to like actually have people come in from the outside and see what the city's all about whenever there's 700,000 plus people that are there.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, Pittsburgh's an amazing city.

SPEAKER_00

I love it. I love it. Tons of food. That's really good. We moved back from Florida, and everyone always asked us why did you move back from living in paradise? We lived in the Keys. And I always say, like, it's home. It's a place that I wanted to raise our kids at. I wanted to have them close to our family.

SPEAKER_01

In Pittsburgh, it's a friendly city, I think.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, friendly city. To a point.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's not like though, like in New York City or some other cities where people kind of like pass. I feel like when you're walking on the streets, people will say hi. Like it's a little bit, a little bit more friendly.

SPEAKER_00

And fun fact about Cassie and I, whenever we moved into our home, the movie that Tom Hanks did with Mr. Rogers, we literally live in Mr. Rogers neighborhood. Yeah. We live where it was filmed at. That is a fun fact. We moved after the fact it got filmed. Unfortunately, we didn't get to meet Mr. Hanks. If you want to be a guest eventually, hey, this is our pitch.

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So

Office Wedding Drama

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we're going to dive into our normal. We got a really juicy story. It deals with office drama and a wedding. So it's really good. We have some fun segments and we'll wrap up with ABC venue.

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So and again, if you want to submit a story.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, you're going to submit it to info at weddingprocast.com. I think last week we got like 20 new stories rolling in. So keep them coming. They don't have to be wedding related. Obviously, we love the drama in a wedding story. But if you have any others that are family vacations, holiday parties, corporate retreat, whatever it might be, send the story in. I got a really good dating story that just came in as well. So, you know, we're going to be playing the field a little bit, not always weddings, but info at weddingprocast.com. This segment is brought to you by Marbill Diamond and Jewelry, hosting the bridal event of the season, April 17th and 18th. Meet with jewelry professionals and shop an incredible extended collection of engagement rings, wedding bands, loose diamonds, and more. Plus, gift bags for every appointment, swag bags for the first 35 couples, diamond studs with a $1,000 purchase, and even a free vacation with every purchase of $3,999 and more. That's right, a free vacation. Trust us, you don't want to miss this. Book your appointment now by calling 724-929-6633. This is my story about my wedding and how my office tried to turn it into a mandatory event for all. I wish I was joking. It's still the talk of the office, and people are butthurt they weren't included. I changed the names, but everything else is very true, and I don't really feel like changing anything. This happened while I was working at an insurance agency. So think a big office with lots of coworkers. I had 20 people alone in my department. My name is Kara, and I got engaged on a Friday night, and by Monday, a company-wide email had been blasted out about my engagement, even including photos from my engagement. The subject line, Kara is tying the knot. Let's celebrate. This was very weird to me. No one from my office was at my surprise engagement party. And I'm not sure why the HR department felt it was appropriate to send it out to everyone. I've been working there for four years at this time, and I consider these people my acquaintances, so not our friends. And I don't share too much of my personal life in the office. There were maybe two or three girls from my department that I was thinking I would invite, but again, I had only been engaged for 48 hours, so I hadn't given it much thought. In the body of the email, it encouraged all the people in our office to bring gifts and to stop by to say congrats throughout the week. It also had my personal address so people could send cards, WTF.

SPEAKER_00

We got married and we were transitioning from one location to another. So everyone at our new job was not invited. Was not invited to the wedding. Furthermore, everyone from our previous job wasn't. But it also was we lived in Florida, we were getting married up north.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you're not necessarily gonna have people be there. But the when she said three people from her office were going to be invited, it's like that's common.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there are a couple people that she's friendly with or maybe has worked with for a long time and she wants them to be there, but like not everyone in the office. Not everyone. And that would be a shock to open your phone or like your email and just see like, hey, Kara's engaged and you see photos of yourself that you didn't give to them.

SPEAKER_00

No. So that means they creeped on her Facebook or Instagram or wherever she posted at. If HR or a company said, Hey, congratulations, we would love to share this with our company.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

With your approval, can we blast this out?

SPEAKER_01

Doesn't seem no, it doesn't seem like they asked for approval. Like not one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no approval.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I let it slide thinking that no one would stop by and chat, but my cubicle was decked out with streamers and balloons, and there is engaged there is an engaged AF sash waiting on my chair. I'm very introverted, and this made me feel very uncomfortable. I thanked everyone in the office, but told them to not make it a big deal, and they begged me to put the sash on and take pictures. The whole time I wanted to use PTO and take the day off. I shot HR an email asking if I could chat with them, and they said yes. They actually needed to chat with me as well. So, okay. When I went into Mary's office, she's the HR manager, she told me that I really needed to start separating work and personal life. And if I wanted to celebrate being engaged in the office, I would need written approval from my manager. I was shocked. Was I getting in trouble for this? I assured her I didn't want any extra attention and wanted to chat about the email that HR sent out and how that was drawing the unwanted attention that she's talking about. Before I could finish, she pulled up photos of me and my sash and turned her screen around, asking if I didn't want it, then why was I laughing and smiling in all the pictures? Someone from my department had taken those pictures and then sent them to HR. But again, why did HR send an email without my consent? She said, It's my job to put my foot down and tell people in the office that I don't want to be celebrated, which I did. She did mention that two people reported this and didn't want to be around the celebration. Funny thing is, I also didn't want it. I wanted to come to work, do my job, and leave. There was no need for the email or the decorated cubicle. I didn't ask for any of it. I was annoyed, but ultimately I needed the job, so I continued to work there. My fiance and I had booked our venue and I bought the dress quicker than normal. Only a six-month engagement. That's pretty fast. Six months. I never ever brought the engagement or wedding planning up unless anybody asked. There was one girl on my team who had a broken engagement the year prior, so I always watched what I said because I did not want to offend her. But she was the one who was always bringing it up and asking questions. Her name is Caitlin. She really wanted to give me all of her old wedding stuff that she didn't get to use. And as much as I appreciated the gesture, I only said yes so I didn't have to talk about the wedding anymore in the office. I did ultimately decide to invite three girls to the wedding from my team. I kept it very quiet and made sure to ask them not to bring anything up. But the one girl kept asking if I was inviting Caitlin. And I said, no, we don't really have a personal relationship outside of work. I think it would be weird to invite her. So the girl with the broken engagement is just like pushing wedding stuff on her, and she's not going to invite her to the wedding. Fast forward three weeks before my wedding, and the team plans an extended work day for team building, but it ended up being a surprise shower for me.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, love team building though. So if you want to do team building for your team, keep doing it.

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Keep doing it. Around 3 p.m., the team started acting off and secretly decorating. At 4 p.m., the big surprise came out. A wedding shower for me. It was a very sweet gesture, but obviously totally unnecessary. I saw several gifts and I felt bad that anybody in the office was buying me a gift. Much to my surprise, it's a lawn, it's a lingerie shower, even worse than a normal shower. I have never felt more embarrassed or uncomfortable in the office. One by one, I have to open the bags in front of my coworker. It's a lingerie. I wanted to climb under a rock and die. The fun doesn't stop there. They start popping bottles of champagne to celebrate my upcoming wedding. Drinking in the office was not on my bingo card. Some people do like a lingerie shower with their bridesmaids at their bachelorette. Oh. But like a lot of people don't. And but like to do it with your coworkers is so inappropriate and so uncomfortable. So I agree. Like I'd be like, what are we doing here?

SPEAKER_00

Of the 20 employees that are working with her, she said three that were going to be invited. Right. So it does not seem like they are close to have a lingerie party.

SPEAKER_01

And I don't understand why someone would be buying me lingerie from work. I don't know. I wanted to clock out and get in my car and drive home, but they had different plans. I go to thank everyone, and then Caitlin announces that the bus is pulling up soon. And all the ladies are heading out for a bar crawl and a bachelorette. My jaw hit the floor. I'm not prepared. I don't want to go. And also, why is Caitlin planning this? We are not close friends. I assumed my friends had put this together, but no, it was Caitlin all on her own. The bus pulled up, decked out with a last penis forever banner. The straws and everything else you can imagine. I was shocked. Why is this happening? I decided to pull Caitlin to the side and ask her. She said she had all of these deposits down and decoration spot for her own wedding, and she just wanted to put it to good use. I felt bad and I thanked her and we all went out. I had my fiance meet us out because I didn't want to be there for too long. And I left about an hour and a half into the party and thanked everyone before leaving. So basically, Caitlin's saying she had all this stuff for her own bachelorette and her own wedding and needs to get rid of it. Let's do it for the office.

SPEAKER_00

What better than for the office?

SPEAKER_01

Terrible choice. The next day I get a meeting with HR scheduled on my calendar, and I go into the meeting not sure what exactly was going to be brought up. But of course, Mary is there, pissed as ever, asking why I planned a lingerie shower and a bachelorette party during work hours. She had no written consent from our manager and was wondering why I did this. I assured her I had nothing to do with it, and the department organized this on their own. She did not believe me. She had photos from the lingerie shower and people at the bar and people popping bottles in the office break room. It was terrible. She blamed me for the whole thing and threatened that we could all lose our jobs for this. I told her Caitlin organized it, and she said, I doubt that. Caitlin was the one who complained. First off, HR not good at their job.

SPEAKER_00

Not good at their job. I feel like there is always a confidentiality.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

When it comes to anyone that reports anything to HR. So them going out and though, good for them to do it, but a HR policy is like you don't say the names of who did it.

SPEAKER_01

HR's like, yeah, well, Caitlin complained. Caitlin planned it. I think I would quit at this time. I could never. If this was like causing this much drama over something she didn't want. The bride did not want this. That's when she tried to tell me that I needed to tone it down or decide to invite the whole office, since I felt it was appropriate to flaunt around and ask people to pitch in to throw my party. She was happy to provide me with the addresses for all my co-workers to give invitations. She even printed it out and handed it to me. 20 team members plus their spouses. I told Mary that I would not be doing that. I also find out from the other members that Caitlin gathered $125 per team member to throw the shower. She did not share that she would be buying lingerie for the gifts or that she was booking a party bus. So she probably was like, hey, everybody pitched money, we're gonna throw a surprise shower. People think they're gonna she's gonna buy stuff off the registry and she goes and buys lingerie. Okay, again, why was she doing this? She told everyone that that's what I wanted. And she was framing me for something that I really didn't want. I marched myself back to into my office and asked everyone to gather around. And I told every single person that I would be happy to give them their money back, and I didn't want any of yesterday to happen, and that's when Caitlin lost it on me, saying that I was so ungrateful and she wouldn't be attending my wedding if I was gonna act like a witch with a bee after everything that she did for me. She gave me decor, she planned my shower, she planned a bachelorette, and I was ungrateful. I couldn't contain myself anymore after that comment, and I told her she was never invited, and that the whole thing was really weird. You guessed it, she reported me again to HR. After the last blowout between us, other coworkers started to share how obsessed she was with me and my engagement, and that they felt weird telling her no. She was so aggressive aggressive, acting as if we hung out outside the office, and I asked her to plan these events. And then the three girls from my office that I did invite to the wedding said that every single day she would ask them if she was going to be invited. And they all told her, probably no, it's gonna be small. And she was oddly determined to get an invite and asked us to say good things about her. Desperate for an invite. She said it would be healing for her to attend the wedding, and it would make sense to attend mine since she had been giving me all of her old wedding stuff, nothing which I was using. Caitlin's crazy. There were several meetings with HR and Caitlin, and ultimately Caitlin quit. The truth came out, and HR did apologize to me. I thought that would be the last of Caitlin, but I thought wrong. The day of my wedding, I saw her in the parking lot of the church. So weird, she never came in. She did write me a letter that she mailed to my house, and I got it after the wedding. She tried to say that her actions were warranted, and she needed to attend the wedding to get over what she lost from not having her own. And she blamed me that she lost her job, but she quit. She was a nut job. She also said she had every right to be there since I plastered this information all over the internet. It was literally only listed on my wedding website. So she searched on the internet for the wedding details. After the wedding, people tried to ask me about my wedding. I stayed very tight-lipped and never even brought in wedding photos. I wish no one ever has to work with the crazy nutcase who gets obsessed with your engagement and tries to sabotage your job and shows up to your wedding but doesn't actually come in. I'm glad that was the craziest thing to happen because everything else was absolutely perfect. And my husband and I have been married for eight years. I quit the insurance job and only talked to the few people that attended my wedding.

SPEAKER_00

Good for you. Good for you. I think the lesson of the story is to keep your conversations about your personal life at a minimum.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But a wedding is kind of she never vocalized it. They found it, plastered it, starting to think that Caitlin maybe went to HR and said, Hey, this happened.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think it was Caitlin. Like it didn't specify in the story, but who else would have turned in photos from her engagement? Like even the girls in her office weren't at that engagement party. So like they were more of like friends from work.

SPEAKER_00

And you have friends at work. It's not saying to not become friends with people at work.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

But also every work has a Caitlin.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Somebody that like wants to be involved. It's like very desperate pick me energy. And I feel I feel a little bad for Caitlin because obviously she went through something traumatic, like breaking her own engagement off, doesn't share a backstory there. But you cannot obsess over somebody else's like big moment in their day and expect to be invited. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

You can kind of form the best friendships at a workplace with a Caitlin involved. Because then you guys, if you're talking amongst the office and you are planning a hey, let's go out for a happy hour, and one person starts bringing up like about a Caitlin. Yeah. Then you just go right in. That's like friendship formed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It could it can be a friendship former. HR, also terrible at your job. I don't know what HR company that was.

SPEAKER_00

All right. Absolutely not. We just wrapped up the

Absolutely Knot

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story of the crazy coworker that thrested herself involved with a coworker's wedding. So figured absolutely not. Things that you should be sharing and doing with your coworkers.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

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Microwave fish in the office kitchen at 10:30 a.m. Absolutely not. I don't think that the time matters.

SPEAKER_02

No. 10 30 a.m.

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is early for lunch. I mean, if you're an early start employee.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sorry, but 10:30 is way too early to be cooking fish in the office.

SPEAKER_00

Like 11:30 also is too.

SPEAKER_01

1230. 11:30. Like you said, no time is good, but maybe send a warning email like, hey, I packed fish for lunch.

SPEAKER_00

That's like a a smelly food.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm on a I'm on a diet. I'm trying to eat better, which I get. Fish is a great source of protein. No. Like stripes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. If you're like sharing a kitchen area, like that could really smell it up for everybody else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No boy no. Take speaker phone calls from your cubicle that does not have a door.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely not. I worked in an office like that for a hot minute that had the cubicles and you can hear everything even when you're on phone calls. So I would hate to hear both sides of the phone call going on.

SPEAKER_00

I have never worked in a cubicle setting, but I get like kind of camera shy in a sense of answering a phone call and other people in my office hearing it.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because then I don't want them to chime in about like how it transpired, what it is. But sometimes I do the best when I'm like on the side on a phone call. I guess that's just me.

SPEAKER_01

It could just be you. Also, if you're having like a phone call, you never know what could be brought up. People might be talking about personal information or like I don't know. Put it on a normal phone call.

SPEAKER_00

One of the fun I Now look back on it. My boss that we had when we lived in Florida, great guy. But he would answer if it was in a group setting. Most of the time when we called somebody, it was more of like a banter with somebody.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Not always work-related. But he would say on the phone call, All right, I got Garrett here. Don't say anything bad at him, bad about him. Now I'm thinking maybe they were talking ill will of me. No. Like am I the but he also at the same time, he did it as a joke and he did it to other people.

SPEAKER_01

But it also is like common courtesy. If you are taking a group call that you're like, I have so-and-so and so-and-so on the call.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like that's normal. But like if you're taking a personal call or even a work call, do not do it on speakerphone when other people are near you. Just take a normal call. Yeah. That's all.

SPEAKER_00

Invite your coworkers to a personal celebration, a baby shower, wedding, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I think this is like an absolutely yes. If you have a close relationship with someone and you feel that you want them there to celebrate a special moment in your life, whatever it may be, I don't think there's any problem with inviting a coworker. It's just, I do not believe in everybody needs to be invited or nobody can be invited. Like it's your personal life. You can hang out or have a relationship with anybody in the office.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And if you want to invite them to your wedding or your baby shower, cool.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Nobody should be mad about it if they're not invited.

SPEAKER_00

We've had some of our closest friends be coworkers. Yeah. It benefits whenever you move away from home and you kind of build more of like a family friendship type of feeling. Like we would have coworkers that would get together for a Friendsgiving or Christmas holiday. We would we're we worked in the hospitality industry. So a lot of the time it happened pre or post-holiday.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

However, that was your family.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because you didn't have family close. So we were like all each other's Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So if you were planning a get together with them, it just made you feel more at home. Yeah. Got that homesickness out of the way for it. Get HR involved because you weren't invited to happy hour with other coworkers.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely not. I think the only time you should be getting HR involved is like when it's work-related and something is going on that is not appropriate. But like people going out for dinner or drinks on their own accord off the clock has nothing to do with work.

SPEAKER_00

If it's friends that are work co-workers and you are not a friend of those said co-workers, too bad, so sad you weren't invited. Right. Do not go to HRM. We're adults.

SPEAKER_01

Like you don't you want to be invited, then maybe ask them.

SPEAKER_00

Because that that is only going to make you not get invited more. Correct. Find your coworkers on social media and start chatting about their weekend postings in a group setting at work. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

Can't do it. Especially if you're like rowdy, like, hey, I saw you clubbing on Saturday. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What you were up? What were you up to? Like people have every right to post on their social media however they'd like. If they're going out, if they're doing anything, but that doesn't mean when you clock into work that you bring that up. If they want to talk about what they did and bring it up and be like, oh, I went to this event. It was so fun. Here's pictures of me. But like another person shouldn't be like, oh, I saw you out last night, are you hungover? Like that's just so inappropriate.

SPEAKER_00

Give nicknames to people in the office.

SPEAKER_01

Now I'm a nickname giver. Like I like, if I can't think of people's nicknames, you know this about me. And I'm talking about someone, I'll like things that stick out to me about that person, I'll be like, you know, the guy with the big beard or something. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Like Big Beard Bill. Yeah. You might give a nickname.

SPEAKER_01

I give him a nickname. Garrett knows this about me. And I think if it's a nickname that the person feels comfortable with, it might stick. And like, I think that's okay.

SPEAKER_00

But if it's like a nasty nickname that you're like saying behind the scenes, like maybe Yeah, if it's if it's something that the individual doesn't know about, yeah, fine to not do that.

SPEAKER_01

Correct.

SPEAKER_00

If it is something that they know about and they accepted it, yeah. It's completely okay. Our one friend, he was our roommate when we lived in Key Largo. We were married for three and a half years with a roommate because we lived in Key Largo. That is true. He was a perfect roommate, but his name was Kyle to us. But then he was also Sharon from engineering, which he laughed at. He liked it. We didn't nickname him I don't know if he liked it, but we didn't like another coworker calling him Meat Lover Kyle because he would bring pizzas to our team for like an event night. And then our one coworker would yell, it's meat lover, and did not go over. Get super tipsy at the holiday party and word vomit your life story to your CEO or boss. I'm gonna go with an absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, of course you would. Yeah, but you were you questioning that? No, I mean, like, I have no problem with getting a little tipsy at the holiday party. Part two, no. Yeah. The second part, I'm like, you shouldn't be like, okay, when you're at a social work event, everybody's there to enjoy themselves. And you don't want to be like going up to someone important and do something or say something stupid that you totally regret just because you're a little tipsy and like you can't reel it back in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You gotta have some like friend support when you're going out in a working social event.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Just to kind of keep yourselves at a like great level.

SPEAKER_01

And you also need to know, like, hey, I don't need another drink. It is a professional work event and not a personal vacation.

SPEAKER_00

Even if you get two free drink tickets.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Two free drink tickets isn't gonna do that to me, but it would make me more talkative, I would say.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, definitely. It gets you a little bit more spruced up. But when you start taking tickets from other people that are being smarter than you, that's when you reel it back in. Really? Keep your microphone unmuted while you are eating snacks. Terrible. Absolutely. No. Have you seen like the crazy Zoom stories?

SPEAKER_01

If you're working remotely and people are like doing some raunchy stuff beyond eating snacks, or like not knowing like they think their camera's off and they're like doing the meeting in the nude. It's like what is wrong with people? Also, I hate hearing people chew. It's like a pet peeve of mine. So like turn it off.

SPEAKER_00

Drink the last drop of coffee from the pot or water from the Brita without refilling. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01

Gotta refill.

SPEAKER_00

Gotta refill it.

SPEAKER_01

It's like common workplace courtesy. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Be appreciative of your coworkers.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And help a brother out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Or if like you finish the last coffee, you're like, hey, is anybody else gonna want coffee? Like, make a last and last call. Because then you could broom more. Let's call for coffee.

SPEAKER_00

But no, refill. Next segment, a new one, Tradition or Trash. This segment is brought to you by Clink92

Wedding Tradition or Trash

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SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna share some wedding traditions and you will share your take if this is something that you think is worth keeping or tossing. Toss it. Toss it in the trash.

SPEAKER_01

Before we dive in, can I give a disclaimer that what I'm gonna share, my personal reactions to these are based on like my preferences, but always the couple should choose what's important for the two of them. So I may say something and you could totally disagree, but don't take it to heart.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah, it's your decision, whether you want to do it or not. All right, tradition or trash, cake cutting.

SPEAKER_01

I I actually like this tradition. Like I like the moment of people cutting the cake. I think it's kind of sweet. And nowadays I feel like there's some couples that are like, oh, I don't want the cake anymore. It's a waste of money, which if you're trying to save in the budget, I can see that being something that's scrapped. But there's lots of ways that you could do it smaller. You know, people do the small tier cake, people do a quiet cake cutting where it's not announced. I think people more fear that they want the cake to be smashed in each other's face, which to me, the cake smash, I'd say get rid of. Get rid of, unless both couples are into it, like we smash cake in each other's face.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but if I went back on it, we didn't really communicate whether we wanted to smash cake on each other's face.

SPEAKER_01

It kind of just happened in the We're kind of like both outgoing people. Like I feel like we would do that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, the DJ asked the crowd, do you think they're gonna smash the cake or not? And then you kind of like you hear the cheers. So the crowd wanted it. Yeah, the crowd wanted it, wanted it. I had to do it. Sorry. Tradition or trash, welcome bags at the hotel for your out of town guests.

SPEAKER_01

This one's so hard, but I usually lean towards trash and not do them. Like I think a welcome bag is nice when it's curated nicely.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. I most of the stuff will then be thrown in the trash if it's just thrown together.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Like I always say, if you're going to get stuff that you could buy at the gas station, you're just tossing it in a bag and it doesn't really reflect the couple or it's not helpful for the weekend or helpful for the people. Why are you wasting your time and money building the bags? Plus, the hotel charges you to pass out the bags.

SPEAKER_00

But I don't mind whenever they have like mints so I can have some little like cash.

SPEAKER_01

We always appreciate the welcome bag, even if it doesn't have like a lot of like reflective stuff. However, like Garrett said, if it's not something useful or something that we'll use that weekend, then it does end up in the trash because like I'm not packing a bunch of granola bars in my bag.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it stays at the hotel. Yeah. I do like whenever it happens a lot for like Pick Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh weddings. There's my Pittsburgh geese coming out. Is Saras chocolates. I love like uh chocolate cover pretzel. Local vibe it, if it's an out-of-town wedding guest coming in.

SPEAKER_01

Like Pittsburgh Popcorn in the background.

SPEAKER_00

Pittsburgh popcorn is great. No free ads. Be cognizant of what you're putting in it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you don't want it to be wasteful.

SPEAKER_00

Using the phrase, who gives this bride away?

SPEAKER_01

To me, I'm putting that in the trash. I feel like nowadays a lot of people scrap that phrase and they use something else like who supports this marriage. That original phrase, some people still keep it, but it shows the bride as a piece of property. And I feel like we've made like giant leaps towards a woman making their own choice and choosing to marry whoever whomever their partner is. So I'd say trash on that. And use if you want a phrase, use a different phrase. There's lots of options out there.

SPEAKER_00

Agree. Wedding party entrances with couples coming out in pairs.

SPEAKER_01

I know we're gonna disagree on this. So for the wedding party intro introductions, I still love those. Like I do love them. I hate it as a professional when they come out in pairs because the time it takes to organize them and if they each pick an individual song, like in a timeline, it's wasteful. That's all I'll say. I don't think it's a bad thing. I just think it's wasteful. Now, you have a different take, right?

SPEAKER_00

I think that it's fine if it's in pairs, especially if you know your partner. If you don't really know the partner, sometimes you get like the short end of the stick and you're like bottom of the barrel in the groomsman and bridesmaid party, and you're like, oh, I'm so-and-so from high school and I'm so-and-so from college, or I'm Yeah, you like don't really know each other. I'm the stepsister. I don't know. Like, you don't really know them well. But if you have someone that like you're friends with, and then you can get creative and not trip going down and doing stinky leg twerking on it, but have a good song if the bride and groom want you guys to collaborate on that. Like you want to outperform the other pairs.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Now I'm more I'm more pro introduce the wedding party as a group because I see so many people that are like nervous. Like me and you aren't nervous to go out there and do something silly with whomever, if we're partners or if we have somebody else. But like there's a lot of people that do not feel comfortable going out and doing like some, you know, you do a little bit, a dance or something. Like they don't want to do that. So the party entrance saves time and it makes people feel a little more comfortable. Yeah, they can hide in a group.

SPEAKER_00

I do it as a competitive standpoint. Yes. Other people do it as I need to get to my seat as soon as possible.

SPEAKER_01

Correct.

SPEAKER_00

Public personal vows at your ceremony.

SPEAKER_01

So this would be like if you writ wrote your own vows and then you're reading them. You're not just repeating vows. I say keep. I love, I'm like a sucker for personal vows. And then like reading them aloud. Now I do know it's hard for a lot of people to get it out emotionally, or some people like aren't public speakers. So they'll save the vows and they do them, you know, over coffee in the morning, or they do a first look and they share their vows with each other, which I also think is very special. But I do always enjoy when the couple reads their vows at the ceremony and they're personal. You get a little insight to their like love story, I think.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I cried.

SPEAKER_01

I also cried at ours.

SPEAKER_00

Cheered up a little bit. Big sparkler send-off.

SPEAKER_01

Trash. I hate the sparkler send-off. I mean, we did it at our wedding 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_00

And we missed the exit. Yeah, I don't know. Or other people missed the exit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they were all at the wrong spot. For me, sparkler exits are like the bane of my existence. Like, if a couple chooses them, I'm like, cool, like as a professional, I'll get it all done. Or if I'm a guest, I'm gonna participate. But drunk people and fire, it's just like a terrible mix. It it does photograph well, but I do not think it's worth it. Choose something else.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think it worked out well for one of our friends. They did the sparkler exit midway through, yeah, just for the photo op like a stage. Before the dancing really got going, and then everyone can just leave whenever. Yeah. So it made it, it was a filled crowd. People weren't leaving early, right after dinner. I thought that worked out, but to each their own. To each their own.

SPEAKER_01

Plus ones for everyone. Trash. I think a lot of people would love to give plus ones, but like in today's economy, it's expensive. Like having a wedding is expensive, and it's kind of like if you have to make budget cuts, it's very easy to just be like, you know what? I never met that partner. They just started dating someone a week ago. You can justify certain people having plus ones, and you can also justify people not getting a plus one. Yeah. Married, engaged, dating for longer than six months. I'm usually like, okay, plus one material. Never met them, just started dating, or the person jumps around and dates a bunch of people.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you're talking S H I T about that, your partner in front of the bride and groom. Yeah. And now they don't want to really include them. Don't bring them. Right. Bouquet or garter toss?

SPEAKER_01

Trash. I interesting. Hate the garter. I think it's very uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's just weird. I think if you like the garter, you could have a private garter moment with your partner. Bouquet toss, I feel like it used to be more popular. I rarely see it anymore. I haven't seen a garter in at least two years. And bouquet, I think a lot of people feel uncomfortable making all their single friends get up. Like I always think it's fun to watch. Like, but we didn't attend a lot of weddings as single people. So I didn't like participate really. But I know a lot of people now are like, oh, that's cringy. I don't want to do it. And they'll either pass bouquets out to everyone, like our couple did last weekend, or they'll dedicate the bouquet to mom, which my couple did in February. Like there's other things you could do in place of a bouquet toss where garter, there's not really any replacement.

SPEAKER_00

And typically what ends up happening now that I've seen that if you do have that happen and whomever catches the bouquet, then the next group that comes up, like the guys that come up for the garter toss, it just is like designated that if that person that catches the bouquet is in a relationship with that person, that person's just gonna get it. Yeah. And it just it just filled up five minutes of me being on the dance floor dancing.

SPEAKER_01

Right. I'm not about it. I'd say trash on those if you're kind of for it.

SPEAKER_00

Weekday weddings.

SPEAKER_01

I'd keep tradition. I love a Friday wedding. I know like you have to maybe take off an extra day of work, but it is so nice. I feel like maybe because we're over 30 to have like the whole weekend to recover.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Or if you're traveling into town and the wedding's on a Friday, you have like the next day to either stay in town and like visit and celebrate with people rather having to get up and catch a flight or drive home early the next day.

SPEAKER_00

Shorter work week.

SPEAKER_01

Shorter work week. I'll take that.

SPEAKER_00

All right, for our next

VIP Table

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segment, it is the VIP table. This week is uh TV show wedding moments.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So the TV show episode that dealt with a wedding.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna fill up the table. There's eight seats, you pick four, I pick four. Who's going first?

SPEAKER_00

Since you've done the first two, if you won't be so kind, I would like to. Okay, Garrett's first. But it was a discrepancy. I feel like I can go one A, one B. Personally, if anyone gets offended about my list, because I didn't watch some of the shows that came out in the 90s, 2000s that had wedding moments. Right. I also have. This is my list.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say, these are very like personal. They're like based on shows that we've probably watched.

SPEAKER_00

If I didn't truly watch it, it's not coming on my list. I'm sorry. It just doesn't happen. This one was, and I watched this post this series coming out.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And I just binged it like crazy. When I got to it though, it was near the end. It is Shits Creek, David and Patrick. That is a great wedding. Absolutely incredible.

SPEAKER_01

Iconic.

SPEAKER_00

Series is incredible. That coming at the end of the series, having Mariah. Moira Moira.

SPEAKER_01

I can't even say it.

SPEAKER_00

Having Catherine O'Hara. Having Catherine, having Catherine O'Hara's character. I don't want to even mispronounce it because now it's out of my tip of my tongue. Her being like the Pope. Yeah, hilarious. Patrick singing to David, simply the best. But like a it's hard to have a better version than a Mariah Carey version. That was better.

SPEAKER_01

Right. It was good. That's a really great choice.

SPEAKER_00

And it just closed the series as a whole.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

A nice wrap-up moment. Pretty sure that the name of the episode was Happy Ending.

SPEAKER_01

That sounds right.

SPEAKER_00

Sounds right for two reasons. It was a happy ending for the series, but it was also in the episode Patrick got David a massage, and he it came with a happy ending. I forgot about that. So, but overall, happy ending to a series. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

You got okay. I get to pick two. All right. My top choice, obviously, I'm going with the office, Pam and Jim's wedding. Like you can't go wrong with that. Yeah. It's one A, one B.

SPEAKER_00

Like I said, that was the other one I binged that series, and you got me into both of them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like the Office will always be like a comfort show for me. And there's just so many funny, funny moments from the episode. And the fact that they do like a secret elopement on Maid of the Mist, and then the wedding, they're just like whatever. Because they knew everybody from the office was gonna just F it up. Do whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Kevin with his shoes.

SPEAKER_01

It's so bad. Hilarious.

SPEAKER_00

Him having his tie cut.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's so funny. And like they are the office's love story. Like they're also involved in it, which is hilarious to me. Um, okay, and my number two pick, which I know you are not gonna have on your list, is Blair and Chuck from Gossip Girl. Yeah, not on my list knew that that would be on yours. I am I've rewatched Gossip Girl a couple times, but Blair and Chuck, you know, they're always like dating somebody else, sleeping with someone else, and then like at the final end, they they get married. It's like they deserve each other, them too. Even after sleeping around? Yeah. I mean, like, you gotta watch the show, it's very dramatic. I'm sure I'll get around to it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Like a teen.

SPEAKER_01

They're like they're supposed to be in high school, but they're acting like well.

SPEAKER_00

My next pick was a true love story similar to Gossip Girl. It didn't even start in high school, it didn't start in middle school. It started when they were three years old, is what they said. Okay later on in the series. It is Boy Meets World, Corey and Depanga.

SPEAKER_01

Fabulous choice.

SPEAKER_00

I would watch that show all the time.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Even pre-Tor Corey and Depanga getting married. They got married, I think, before college or during college.

SPEAKER_01

We grew up with them. Like grew up with them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. One thing I will give is the series itself made it like Corey and Depenga were always dating since they were three. That's at least what it became once they got married. But there was a stretch of time that they did not like each other.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they like broke up in a couple episodes.

SPEAKER_00

Broke up in a couple. He liked was with somebody at the ski lodge. Yeah. But I'm saying the storyline itself had nothing to do with Depenga being a girlfriend. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, they right as they got into like the end of high school and Depenga proposed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

At their graduation. A reverse proposal. Reverse proposal for it. But that show just is literally my childhood.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So next pick is post-childhood for me. Okay. Came out, I think, right around when we graduated high school. And probably my favorite show since then. Modern Family. Getting married. And that was a pinnacle Modern Family episode because it had all the sequences that Modern Family was about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

There are comedic sequences of like conversations happening with those like end-of-line jokes. Chaos was ensuing. The dad. What's the dad's name? I forget the dad's name. I don't know. I know the dog's name's Stella. Yeah. Stella the dog. You know the dog's name, but not the main dad.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man. Gloria is the wife. But then Phil Dumfey's the one that officiated the wedding. A lot of people say that I'm like Phil Dumfey.

SPEAKER_01

He's a good dad.

SPEAKER_00

Good dad. Good dad.

SPEAKER_01

He's a good guy.

SPEAKER_00

But I was getting called Phil Dunfey when I was in my 20s. I'm in my 30s now, and I'm like still getting it.

SPEAKER_01

That's hilarious. That was a really great choice. Okay, I'm up. My last two, right? Yep. Okay. Number three, I'm going with Friends, Monica and Chandler's wedding. Yeah, you'll probably win because of that one. I feel like I'm not a huge Friends fan. Like I watched it growing up because it was always like on at our house. You know, their love story was in a ton of episodes. So like it kind of builds up to them getting married. Joey is the officiant. She looks stunning. Chandler has a little bit of like, oh, should we get married?

SPEAKER_00

And then they get married. So it's like And a lot of the episodes that we've already mentioned had that. Yeah, a little bit of drama. A friend is or friend or family members marrying them. Yeah. There's always all these have drama for it.

SPEAKER_01

Personal touch weather was like a big one you said, Kim and Mitch. Um, and then last I'm gonna go with Parks and Rec, Ben and Leslie. Yeah, another hilarious show, and like a couple that's made for each other, and they get married like late night, last minute. Everybody kind of gets involved. It's it's a feel-good episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Great episode. Yes. Good series, too. All of them are good series. This one, I think, is off the beaten rocker of the last seven picks. Okay. But it is the Red Wedding, Game of Thrones. It ends terribly.

SPEAKER_01

That's a sad ending.

SPEAKER_00

But episode-wise, that was like you watch that, you're shocked.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You didn't like pursuing what's happening.

SPEAKER_01

I did not see that coming at all.

SPEAKER_00

Unless you read the books. I did not read the books. Yeah. The my least favorite type of people are people that have read the Game of Thrones books. Like, well, you didn't read the books. I'm sorry. Do you see the pages? They're like every single book is yay thick. And the story. We do have the books. We have the books. I've perused them, but the story hasn't ended yet. Why am I going to read a series that hasn't ended?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So accurate. The series ended poorly. The book hopefully does. And I, whenever the last book comes out, maybe I'll read it.

SPEAKER_01

But okay, let's read our uh plus ones at the kids' table. These are honorable mentions. I'm gonna do three the three that I had that I didn't say. One Tree Hill, Haley, and Nathan. Yeah. We used to watch that show a lot. My sisters love that show. Big Bang Theory, Amy and Sheldon, and Safe by the Bell, Zach and Kelly. Similar to like Boy Meets World, but it's like Las Vegas edition. So, and it really wasn't like a TV series, it was like a two-part movie. Like it was it was a TV, but it was like longer episodes, if you know what I mean. Like a part.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that was, I think, what a few of ours were too. Yeah. I think it was like two parts, too.

SPEAKER_01

Those were my that didn't make the top list. Okay. What'd you have?

SPEAKER_00

I had Pool House, Jesse and Becky. Great show. I had I did have friends as well on my list. I had Office. I had Once Upon a Time, Emma and Captain Hook. I just remember we got into that show and then it kind of like fizzled out after Frozen got debuted for it, but we were we loved that show. I like that. It was a great show. I did enjoy it a lot, but that was on my list. I didn't everything else you already picked. I didn't have a huge list. Yeah. Because I assumed you were not picked the red wedding. I was not picking that, however. Boy Meets World. You don't really put that on my list. Yeah. So good list. That'll be on our page for you to vote on. You might go three, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to our segment, ABC

ABC Venue

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Venue, where um we're gonna play out a scenario and then kind of wrap it up. Ready?

SPEAKER_00

Ready.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, honey. Hey, mom. How's it going? It's going good. I was just calling you because I just booked the summer extravaganza at ABC Venue.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, great.

SPEAKER_01

Like where when it's taking over the week of Fourth of July weekend all week. And I just want to make sure that you can make it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, well, Mom, it is Christmas. I do need to put in some PTO for it.

SPEAKER_01

And we can't take no for an answer, honey. Aunt Becky's coming and she wants to meet the kids.

SPEAKER_00

Well, Mom, I haven't seen Aunt Becky since I was eight years old. So sorry, that was a little much, but when can I let you know by can I let you know in a few months? Like I need to figure out. We did just have Christmas.

SPEAKER_01

I need to know by the end of the week.

SPEAKER_00

End of the week. Mom, I'm sorry, but it's just something that I can't give you right now. I need to talk through it with the missus. I need to just see our calendar. I'm pretty sure that her mom wanted to have us come together for 4th of July since we spent the last few holidays with you. Her mom? Yes, her mom.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's my holiday, and you have to come. Well, it's not just it's not that easy. And I'm working on the menu. Do you think you guys can make lasagna? I don't think I can make a lasagna. I don't even know how to make lasagna. Okay, so moral of the story here is don't feel pressured to attend events. My God. Oh, got stuck. My wig was stuck. Don't feel pressured to attend events or say yes to attending anything if it doesn't align with your personal wants and your personal schedule.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And great to go to. It seems like a fun extravaganza. I gotta figure out how to make lasagna.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. All right. Well, thank you so much for tuning in. And if you have a story, please submit it to infow at weddingprocast.com. And if you give us a listen, please review us. Yeah, please review us. Review it. Review it.

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All right. Thank you. We'll see you next time.